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Post by livx on Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:39 am

am i the only one (i know i'm not) who actually wants to understand dylan and eric? i know i'm not. if i was born in littleton and went to columbine at the same time they did, 100% i'd be friends with them, i'd love to get to know them and make them happy and stuff. that's just the kind of person i am. i 100% know a lot of you people are too
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Post by thedragonrampant on Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:54 am

You're definitely not the only one! I've always wanted to understand where they were coming from and what exactly brought them to go through with the massacre. I feel like understanding who they were as people can give us more insight into current-day mass shootings as well, because the motives/emotions involved in these cases are often similar. I'm not at all sure if I would've been friends with them back in the day, though I generally make an effort to be nice to people and don't like not getting along with someone so who knows..
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Post by Pledgeallegiance on Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:41 am

To be honest, when I was first getting into columbine, I was really into trying to get to know who they were as people and what they were like in the years leading up to the massacre. Well, after four years I wouldn't be friends with them at all. It's kinda hard to know for sure;

Were they racist and sexist/homophobic because of their environment, or were they like that beforehand and that's why they were bullied? Because they have a lot of history bullying people as well as being bullies so I'm really just trying to understand that
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Post by livx on Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:02 pm

Maybe not so much friends with them but i'd be nice to them, that's just my nature though
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Post by ofrabid on Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:13 pm

i feel like a lot of us have this automatic idea that maybe we could've helped in someway. maybe we could've stopped. everyone has it so i don't think its unusual you probably would've wanted to be friends with them prior to the shooting. i've thought about this many times and i honestly don't think i would've gotten along with Eric whatsoever. he would've frustrated me to hell and back. i've always been raised to be more open-minded and knowing Eric was ignorant in many aspects would've made me want to deck him. HJFDSJGJ
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Post by mysistersbike on Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:35 pm

Eric used racial slurs because he thought they were funny. Dylan followed suit with Eric -- they're not as complicated as we seem to think they are. Troubled, yes, but simple and misunderstood thanks to people like Brooks Brown and the mass media.

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Post by chris-has-problems on Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:25 pm

I'll be honest, when I was a little kid and first heard about columbine, I hated their guts, and was kind of scared because I live in Colorado myself, and I didn't want it to happen to me. But then later on in my life, my teacher brought it up and I was kind of curious and watched a bunch of documentaries and stuff. Now when I look back on myself I get kinda mad since I didn't let myself try and understand the situation they were in, and it makes me feel kinda bad.
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Post by livx on Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:49 am

i feel like i would've wanted to be friends with them prior to the shooting because they're like "outcasts" and i guess i am too
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Post by Dobie on Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:11 am

Ok, maybe i'm of a rare breed, but I don't find Eric and Dylan to be all that interesting. I find mass shootings as a whole interesting, but them personally not so much. I've read through some of Eric's journals/pages/etc and some excerpts from Dylan's stuff and... yeah maybe I wouldn't really have gotten a long well with them if I'd known them irl. Dylan possibly, although it's almost impossible to say. But Eric alone seems like a damn handful (from what i can tell he probably wasn't a huge jerk to random people, but obviously people who really got to know him saw how fucked up he was and like, even people's parents were wary of him...) I wish he had really gotten help but I don't know, I have a hard time looking too crazy deep into them, and their story is one where my only real sympathy goes towards the victims. Not the perpetrators.
Edit: I may have worded that weirdly, my sympathy in these shootings (especially in a school or involving kids) always 100% goes to the victims. I set aside a bit of a different kind of sympathy in some cases for the perpetrator, but not in this case.
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